Comment on Pastors Are People Too by David

David — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:49:28 +0000

I would love to know more about this. I am currently hurting and people in the congregation think I should behave one way when my heart tells me to go a different direction. Are there any other articles that are good for me to read right now?

Comment on Pastors Are People Too by Warren Camp

Warren Camp — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:44:18 +0000

amazingly encouraging!
i know you are a gifted teacher, but i think this writing thing is coming along as well

Comment on Pastors Are People Too by Chris Land

Chris Land — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:31:20 +0000

AMEN. Pastors are human and some churches need to stop putting them on so high a pedistall that they cannot do anything wrong. Great blog, bro. Continue to speak the truth.

Comment on The Pastor-Centered Church by Fred

Fred — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:17:36 +0000

It is good to know I am not the only one frustrated by “pastoritis”. That is what I call the malady congregations are infected with where the symptom is thinking one or two men (or women) “lead” the community. It stinks! Ephesians mentions 5 servant positions placed in his body to prepare the God ordained ministers (the people). I believe most “pastors” are not pastors and that is why they suck at it. Most of them feel called and are able to secure credentials that intimidate other people into abdicating their authority and responsibility to them. When a person comes to Christ, he or she becomes a minister of the Gospel. A true pastor will seek to promote the welfare of that person’s ministry. The vocation in which the person is when he or she is saved is the ministry field in which that person is ordained by God to serve. Real pastors confirm this ministry and get to know what it entails so he or she may help the minister. I have never met a so-called pastor that was more interested in the ministries of the people of the congregation than his or her own agenda. They all try to get people on board with their vision and plans. They all consider what they do to be the “valid and true” ministry. So they spend time scheduling retreats, outreaches, short term missions and “training” meetings. Never have I ever even heard of a Pastor trying to find out about the ministry someone else is already doing and attempting to help them do it. Today’s “pastors” pretty much suck. They are egotistical administrators or self centered visionaries that, at the core, want everybody on board with what they are doing. Unfortunately, “pastoritis” is a community disease and nearly the whole church is infected with it. Let me say that ministry still continues. Sure. Souls are still saved. The Church is still growing and people are living and doing their ministries. Thank God! But to Pastors, I just want to say: In the list in Ephesians 4:10, you are number 4, second to last. You are not the center of the church. Most ministry of the church doesn’t need you in the way you “help” Most of you actually hinder the real ministry because you don’t even acknowledge what that ministry is! In fact, you are not a minister, you are an equipper. Start honoring what God is doing and free yourself from the curse of “pastoritis”! Find the Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists and Teachers in your community and become part of a team of equippers. Humble yourself. Be a friend and partner. Read Matthew 11:28-31. Be like that. Stop laying heavy burdens on other people and start helping them live out their callings. Stop inventing official “ministry opportunities” which only imply that daily occupation is not ministry, and start helping people be ministers in the field God has already given them. Finally, why is it you don’t have a real job? Are you sure what you do is really needed? If so, fine. But I don’t think every community needs a paid person to make them efective. Maybe getting a real job will help you see how working and living in the world is a more valid ministry than all the plans you’ve made to burden your already tapped people with. Just some ideas to pray about.God to serve. Real pastors confirm this ministry and get to know what it intails so he or she may help the minister. I have never met a so-called pastor that was more interested in the ministries of the people of the congregtation more than his or her own agenda. They all try to get people on board with their vision and plans. they all consider what they are to be doing the “valid and true” ministry. So they spend time scheduling retreats, outreaches, short term missions and “training” meetings. Never have I ever even heard of a Pastor trying to find out about the ministry someone else is already doing and atempting to help them do it. Today’s “pastors” pretty much suck. They are egotistical administrators or self centered visionaries that at the core want everybody on board with what they are doing. Unfortunately, “pastoritis” is a community desease and nearly the whole church is infected with it. Let me say that ministry still continues. Sure. Souls are still saved. The Church is still growing and people are living and doing their ministries. Thank God! But to Pastors, I just want to say: In the list in Ephesians 4:10, you are number 4, second to last. You are not the center of the church. Most ministry of the church doesn’t need you. In fact, you are not a minister, you are an equipper. Start honoring what God is doing and free yourself from the curse of “pastoritis”! Find the Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists and Teachers in your community and become part of a team of equippers. Humble yourself. Be a friend and partner. Read Matthew 11:28-31. Be like that. Stop laying heavy burdens on other people and start helping them live out thier callings. stop inventing official “ministry opportunities” which only imply that daily occupation is not ministry, and start helping people be ministers in the field God has already given them. Finally, why is it you don’t have a real job? Are you sure what you do is really needed? If so, fine. But I don’t think every community needs a paid person to make them a church. Maybe getting a real job will help you see how working and living in the world is a more valid ministry than all the plans you’ve made to burden your already tapped people with. Just some ideas to pray about.

Comment on Pastors Are People Too by Donna Bierwirth

Donna Bierwirth — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:22:57 +0000

Yancey, I pray for you and our pastoral staff – that you would be shielded under the wings of our Savior from temptation and strife. It is a blessing to us all, that all of you are daily submitting yourselves before the Lord, to be fully yielded to the power of the Holy Spirit – I for one am grateful for your heart before God.

Comment on Pastors Are People Too by Drew Clark

Drew Clark — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:38:24 +0000

Really enjoyed this post. It has been something that I have wanted to say for a while to a a few people in our core “pastors aren’t perfect, they are people too.” Thanks.

Comment on Pastors Are People Too by Kelly

Kelly — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:20:43 +0000

LOL.. ok.. ok.. you are forgiven for the country music jokes! lol Seriously this is awesome! Thanks for sharing.

Comment on Don’t Let Your Church Become a Parachurch by Jeff Norman

Jeff Norman — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:48:28 +0000

I am glad that I am apart of CCCC and the full mission stated in the great commission. Over the duration of my spiritual growth it has become my passion to make disciples of Jesus as a navigator. There is nothing more satisfying than seeing new believers going through conversion.

Comment on Video on Leadership, Preaching by Jeff Norman

Jeff Norman — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:34:14 +0000

I am glad you are energetic. It keeps my attention at the West Campus. The head nodding in this video is funny!

Comment on Converting the Converted by Jeff Norman

Jeff Norman — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:27:57 +0000

This is so true, I once was one of the arrogant people in the audience wanted more morality preached than the gospel but as I have matured I have come to realize that I need to preach the gospel to myself everyday. The gospel is what gives me life and the gifts meant for me, not my own will. Thanks Yancy for harping on the gospel every week.

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